they did tell us last night after they broke up there was movement on both sides. one negotiator going as far as saying she saw movement and she was optimistic about the talks but there is still no specifics. not many specifics. nobody is talking to us about the specifics, we are getting a good feeling that something good is happening. >> that is good to hear. as you said we have not heard from negotiators since they said at one time team 30 they would not have -- 1:30 they would not have an update. have you heard anything? >> reporter: they said they would keep talk figure anything is going on. they would keep talking, that is what we are hearing from b .a.r.t. as long as they stay inside we get the sense they will keep talking. >> all right, don, thank you. >>> get ready for more scenes, though, like this one. traffic backed up and stacked up around the bay area. last month the b.a.r.t strike hit during the week of the 4th of july. traffic was relatively light. tomorrow, it will be a different story. we focus ada i lot on the impact on the east bay. but, kpix got